Once Saved, Always Saved – my belief (update)

The process of falling away, and changing one’s beliefs, which eventually can lead a person to deny Jesus, is described in many verses.

Given all of the ways to fall away from the faith, the Bible tells us to examine ourselves, and work out our salvation with fear. Sometimes religious people who may believe OSAS become very offended if you preach to them anything that might question their salvation. They say, “How dare you!”. Well, I dare because scripture commands us to question our salvation.

2 Cor 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves.

Philippians 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

1 Peter 1:10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:

Next is a list of the things lead to falling away from the faith and belief in Jesus.

Falling away & being rejected by God, can be the result of (each verse quoted in full below):

1. for lack of knowledge & rejected knowledge Hosea 4:6
2. that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not Matt 7:24-27
3. hearers only, deceiving your own selves James 1:22
4. beareth not fruit & abide not in me John 15:2,6
5. not a doer & forgetteth what manner of man he was James 1:22-24
6. faith without works is dead Jam 2:17-26
7. he that lacketh & hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins 2 Peter 1:9
8. unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures 2 Peter 3:16
9. err from the truth James 5:19-20
10. lust, and enticed James 1:13-16
11. the love of money 1 Timothy 6:10
12. be a friend of the world James 4:4
13. the pollutions of the world & again entangled therein & turned to his own vomit again 2 Peter 2:20-22
14. the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word Matt 13:22
15. have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away Luke 8:13
16. tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended Matt 13:21
17. be without chastisement Hebrews 12:6-8
18. servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death Romans 6:16
19. being led away with the error of the wicked 2 Peter 3:17
20. seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils 1 Timothy 4:1
21. an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. Hebrews 3:12-15
22. sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth Hebrews 10:26
23. having put away concerning faith & blaspheme 1 Timothy 1:18-20:
24. counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing Hebrews 10:29

Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

Matt 7:
24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

James 1:22-24
22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
John 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every [branch] thatbeareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
John 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast [them] into the fire, and they are burned.

Jam 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Jam 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Jam 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Jam 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
Jam 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
Jam 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
Jam 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
Jam 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
Jam 2:25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent [them] out another way?
James 2:26 “For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.”

2 Peter 1:1-10
1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:
2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,
3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:

2 Peter 3:
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

James 5:
19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

James 1:13-16
13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
16 Do not err, my beloved brethren.
1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

2 Peter 2:
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Matt 13:
22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.
23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

Luke 8:13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.

Matt 13:
19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

Hebrews 12
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
2 Peter 3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.

Hebrews 3:12-15
12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.

1 Timothy 1:18-20:
18 This charge I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the prophecies which went before on thee, that thou by them mightest war a good warfare;
19 Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:
20 Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.

Hebrews 10:
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

The person who believes OSAS often will look at all the evidence above and conclude that if a person “falls away” he was never really saved to begin with. I’m sorry, the Bible never says, “he who falls away was never really saved to begin with”. All the messages and exhortations and warnings about falling away are written to believers.

I encourage ANYONE who loves Truth to continue to search the scriptures for the truth and not lean on man for their understanding. Below are more articles for digestion.

http://yourlastresort.net/index.cfm?PageID=5614
http://www.isawthelightministries.com/alwayssaved.html
http://www.heavenshelpers.org/?id=86&page=O
http://www.moriel.org/Sermons/Online/Once_Saved_Always_Saved/once_saved_always_saved.pdf
http://www.bibleprophesy.org/alwayssaved.htm
http://www.captelco.qc.ca/churchofjesus/_disc1/000000d3.htm
http://www.bible.ca/cal-P-refutation.htm
http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/eternal-security.htm
http://www.raptureme.com/rap43.html

27 thoughts on “Once Saved, Always Saved – my belief (update)

  1. i meant murders sorry for typo

  2. hello how have u been. on july 28 or 29th news u said that murers wouldnt have their place in Heaven i thought God forgave all sin but blasphamey please help i dont understand thank u God bless

  3. ny says:

    where in the Bible does it talk of nibiru thank u God bless

  4. ny says:

    also just wanted to say (and this is not pointed at just 1 person) but i believe in the rapture. but im not gonna argue with anyone wether theres a pre trib. or post trib rapture. im just praying im accounted worthty to escape the things getting ready to come to pass and stand before God amen. noone should be aruging about this or anything the Bible is clear. we are to love God and love one another amen God bless Keep reading the Bible everyone the truth shall set u free Amen.

  5. ny says:

    no more pins and screws in my ankle ive had them in there for 10 yrs. my surgery to get them out is july 18th.. thanks for all u do . God bless

  6. ny says:

    also just wanted to say i read the Bible to my hubby as he makes his way to work i read to him for an hour and thirty mins. 5 nights a week we have learned alot have read it from cover to cover many many times. We LOVE the WORD OF GOD. Thank u Jesus that i can do this amen. praying for the world to repent get baptized turn to God in Jesus name amen!! Pray for my unsaved loved ones thank u

  7. Steve says:

    I have an employee that told me about your website, he listens to you everyday, and I hear your reports often, I have been listening to your reports as well now. I was trying to learn more about your doctrinal views and see that you believe that once the Holy Spirit comes into your heart that you can send Him away with one sin, and then invite Him back in when you confess your sin(s). I was listening to a sermon from John McArthur (Grace to You), on Jude 24-25, The Saint’s Guarantee”, and you might find it an interesting Bible study. Keep up the good fight! SN

  8. ny says:

    thank u very much for prayers i go to dr 2moro. and yes Bibles studies are going great Glory be to God for opening our eyes to the real truth i dont sugar coat nothing and ppl are enjoying the truth cause the truth shall set us free In Jesus name amen thanks for the news and all u do luvs to God bless u and urs. My email is blocked so this is only way i can chat with u

    • Chat away my friend:) I will try to get back in a timely manner:)

      Praying for your healing b/c I know how discouraging it is to not “be yourself” while especially in these times when we want to be doing everything we can for the Lord. Use this time wisely:0

      Luvs

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      • ny says:

        thank u for prayers and i know ur busy but thanks for getting back with me. and thanks for the advice. luvs back 😉 Love studying and teaching the Lords words amen thanks for all u do

  9. Nancy says:

    I have been so blessed by your videos and writings that I believe you to have a extremely strong prayer life. Because of that I’m going to ask you to pray for me for healing in my body. I have had 3 spine surgeries for chronic pain due to a car accident. I pray daily for healing and my family also prays for me. I don’t know why I felt led to ask you this but I am. Please pray, I’m in so much pain. God bless you and your ministry, your sister in Christ, Nancy

    • You bet. I will include you in all my prayers. Struggling with chronic pain is never fun. I have a bad back, but nothing compared to what you are going through. I had a lady that came to the pharmacy I worked for 6 years who was also in an accident. 15 surgeries later she is now able to walk but will probably be on pain medication the rest of her life.

      I will pray too and believe you will be healed.
      God bless you
      Christine

    • ny says:

      will pray for u also and pray for me ihave pins and screws in my ankle and 1 fell out and another getting ready gonna have surgeory but dk when yet in Jesus name we pray for healing amen God bless

  10. Robert Bedard says:

    Aloha Hummingbird, I am Greatful for your insite and diligence with the scriptural reference that shows me more evidence that I fall short in my duty as a faithful servant of God and Jesus. I truly seek the goodness and direction of the Lord – but the scriptures are complex, which makes me grateful to indulge in the clarity and sound definition that your divinely provided understanding enables me to see – Thank You and May God Bless. Aloha, Robert “Artist in Paradise”

    • Howdy, from the mountains of Colorado. The Holy Spirit is awesome to show us all things and to continually teach us as we grow. The more we delve into the Holy Bible, the deeper our relationship with our most Holy Father in heaven grows and His Son Jesus Christ. This is exciting times we live in and having many teachers who are in the truth makes this life make that much more sense. I also thank all my teachers as well. God bless you.

  11. You Go girl…Amen ..Thank you, Great stuff !

    • Working hard or hardly working tonight:) LOL

      Luvs to you:)

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      • ny says:

        hello Hb sure miss chatting with u we need to fellowship.my hubby has emailed blocked so i really have no way to talk to u about the Lord or Bible miss u God bless u and yes im still having Bible sudies 🙂

      • Are those Bible studies going good? I pray everyone is getting along and learning much about the Lord. Luvs

      • Ed Silvia says:

        Hi Hummingbird027
        I always want to email you with questions. Others seem to know how but I don’t. Could you find time to email me?

      • I do not give out my email, but you can contact me through the youtube messaging system. I’ve tried to find it on my channel, but I too have had problems with this and wonder if youtube has taken it off my account. Anyway, you can go to your youtube inbox. Click “compose” and then put hummingbird027 in the To: portion then write your message and send it to me. I just tested it and it works. I apologize that this is the only way to contact me. I have a lot of haters on this channel who use and abuse even just this small way to get in touch with me. Plus my time is VERY limited these days and getting back to emails in numerous area’s is just too much for me to handle.

        God bless,
        Christine

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